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    What does it really mean to be “mean,” especially when you’re a woman? Keke Palmer and Drew Afualo unpack why women are so often labeled “mean” when they set boundaries, advocate for themselves, or simply refuse to make themselves smaller for someone else. Drew opens up about learning from a young age that she deserves to be treated with respect and why she refuses to let the fear of being called mean dictate how she shows up. From standing up for yourself to challenging the expectations placed on women, Keke and Drew get into why sometimes what gets labeled as “mean” is really just confidence, honesty, and self-respect. They also explore how gender, race, culture, and identity can shape the way people perceive women who speak their minds, and why we should question the idea that being agreeable is the same thing as being kind. So, are you actually being “mean,” or are you finally standing up for yourself? Watch more of Keke and Drew’s conversation on Baby, this is Keke Palmer. Follow Baby, this is Keke Palmer on social: https://www.instagram.com/kekepalmerpodcast https://www.tiktok.com/@kekepalmerpodcast Follow Keke on social: https://www.instagram.com/keke https://www.twitter.com/KekePalmer https://www.facebook.com/kekepalmer https://www.tiktok.com/@kekepalmer Connect with Wondery: https://wondery.com/shows/baby-this-is-keke-palmer/ https://facebook.com/WonderyMedia https://twitter.com/WonderyMedia https://instagram.com/WonderyMedia https://www.tiktok.com/@wonderymedia About the Show: Keke Palmer has questions, and she’s not afraid to ask them. On ‘Baby, this is Keke Palmer,’ Keke sits down with artists, actors, entrepreneurs, experts, and creators shaping culture. These aren’t just promo stops or viral moments. They’re honest, layered conversations about identity, relationships, reinvention, success, and growth. Pop culture moves fast. Opinions move faster. But nuance takes time, and that’s what Keke makes space for. Because culture is more than a headline. It’s a reflection of who we are. And baby… this show holds up the mirror. New episodes every Tuesday. #kekepalmer #podcast #wondery
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