KB has been one of the most theologically sharp voices in Christian hip hop for over two decades. In this episode, he finally says what he's never said publicly — about his relationship with Lecrae, the tension inside 116, and the years it took to get to the other side of it. This one goes deep. IN THIS EPISODE: How KB came to faith at 16 through a bootleg mixtape The Flavor Fest moment that connected KB and Lecrae for the first time What KB was carrying inside 116 that Lecrae didn't know about The counseling session KB needed before he could tour with Lecrae The South by Southwest text that nearly fractured the movement Why KB felt Lecrae was over-indexing his mainstream reach The tearful reconciliation — and what it took to get there KB on reformed theology, race, and navigating Black identity in evangelical spaces Why KB says the new generation of Christian artists is getting the victory without the cross Contentment as a superpower — and why suffering is how you get it KB's new album This Cannot Be Sold and what's next Quo — the modern phone system built for how your team actually works. Calls, texts, and customer conversations all in one place. Try Quo at quo.com/DEEPEND _______________________________________________ Step Into Reconstruction: https://reconstruct-u.com/ 📱Connect with us on Instagram! - https://www.instagram.com/deependlecrae/ 📱Connect with Lecrae - https://linktr.ee/Lecrae Stream the Deluxe Album: https://music.apple.com/us/album/reconstruction/1828052699 👕 Shop Lecrae Merch: https://lecrae.store/ MB01SUEPVNZO8I1 00:00 – KB Was Going to Say This Regardless 01:23 – How the Most Unlikely People Built a Global Movement 05:18 – Fatherless at 16: The Mixtape That Changed Everything 09:32 – This Is How He Always Talks (It's Not a Pulpit Persona) 10:15 – Flavor Fest: The Night Two Worlds Collided 16:42 – The Season It Became 50% Contentious 20:21 – KB Went to Counseling Before the Unashamed Tour 22:51 – "When Are You Going to Lead?" — The Question They Were Both Asking 29:27 – The Person I Have the Most Tension With Is My Son 34:14 – Thrown into Fame Without a Crucible 37:42 – "You Get Contentment Through Suffering" 41:19 – "Are You Ashamed of Me?" — The Question KB Had to Ask 45:08 – The Text from South by Southwest That Split the Room 49:47 – KB: "I Thought You Were Over-Indexing the Mainstream" 56:08 – Reformed Theology, Race, and the Awakening That Took Too Long 1:01:12 – Why KB Was Already Through the Stage You All Were Just Entering 1:07:42 – "I Was a Little Offended" — KB on Grace He Couldn't Give Yet 1:12:33 – What KB Would Have Given Lecrae at 34 1:14:57 – New Album, Digital Discipleship, and What's Next